Thursday, May 14, 2009

NL100 TPTK on 3b pot, weird flop - Two Plus Two Poker Forum

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/39/small-stakes-pl-nl/nl100-tptk-3b-pot-weird-flop-485035/

Hero flats a 3bet with AQs-clubs from a TAG blind with a 9% 3bet over a reliable sample.  Flop comes QJT twotone and the general sense is shove or fold, with a high likelihood of getting it in bad.

My questions for y'all (and the forum).

If villain is going to have us in a bad spot on a broadway board but three bets that much, shouldn't we be 4bet bluffing with AQ?

2 comments:

  1. Things that would be nice to know...
    How often does he 4bet? How aggro is he postflop? Does he barrel a lot?

    I don't think we can say 4betting is almost always best... It's just this board is sick but we're not going to get a board like that very often.

    With that being said:
    Shoving the flop makes no sense to me. We're going to get it in bad so often...

    Do we all hate calling and see what he does on the turn? I prob would call in the heat of the moment with the intention of giving up if he barrels the turn.

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  2. Yeah, I don't know.

    Three things that come to mind when I think about this spot.

    1) High variance.

    2) Rare.

    3) Very in-game dynamic dependent.

    The shove will only work to induce action from a dominated draw hand that shuts down otherwise. There's just not that many of them. The hand is 3-to-1 vs my estimated continuing range { TT+, AQs+, ATs, KQs, KTs, QTs+, JTs, AQo+ }

    Can it be that it's too bad to even call unless he'll go off with like KJ with a backdoor?

    Isn't he going to play perfect poker if we call?

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